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Tuesday, February 05, 2008



The Junior encounter

15 Comments:

  • At 9:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What is a Junior encounter?

     
  • At 9:50 PM, Anonymous Paula said…

    A nice group of sisters. However, three of them in the picture look very "mature" as junior professed sisters. I thought you don't accept anyone over 30 y/o. What's happened???
    Blessed Lent:)

     
  • At 10:06 PM, Anonymous who-is-not said…

    Paula,
    I think three mature looking sisters in picture: Sr. Martha, standing in the back with a white turleneck on, is junior formator & formation coucilor :( Sr. Christopher, standing on the left, is their present provincial :( and Sr. Elizabeth is sitting in the right front roll:). Am I right, Sr. Anne? I think there are exceptions to age of entering because it's!

     
  • At 10:12 PM, Anonymous Chelsea said…

    Haha! Aren't they cute???.... well...in a nunly sort of way!!! Just Kidding! Really though...I miss you guys!


    By the way Paula...The three "mature sisters" are formators. Sr. Martha, Sr. Elizabeth, and Sr. Christopher. They help the Junior professed (Those who have taken temporary vows) prepare for final vows.

    Sorry if that was confusing, I'm sure some one else can explain that much better than me.

    In Him,
    Chelsea

     
  • At 11:40 AM, Blogger Sr. Annie said…

    A junior encounter is a time of study, sharing and growing together through conferences, special times of prayer and conversation. The more mature looking Sisters are Srs. Martha, Christopher and Elizabeth. They are the Junior Guide, Provincial and Cook. Just in that order.

     
  • At 8:28 PM, Blogger Easter A. said…

    Hello Sr. Annie!

    Thank you for posting this picture!

    That is Sr. Kim, our beloved Sr. Kim whom we all love here on Oahu! Please say "hello" to her. Greetings from the family with 5 kiddies who loved hugging her!
    Wow! Last time we saw her she wasn't wearing a veil! Oh, she looks good with one!

    There's Sr. Martha also. So good to see you all!

     
  • At 7:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Whatever happened to the original habits, they were beautiful? I don't think Maestra Thecla approves.

     
  • At 8:28 PM, Blogger marthatherese said…

    I noticed that you miss the old FSP habits and me too... However, I'm sure Maestra Thecla wouldn't mind about the evoluton of the Daughters of St Paul (FSP) habits even though I don't know her in person. Beautiful habits don't make one becoming authentic Pauline. Don't get me wrong--sure, it helps to attract future vocations and they're great witnesses; But I think we need to go beyond the "habits" and let "Christ forming in us"
    Blessings to all :)

     
  • At 6:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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  • At 6:44 PM, Blogger Lisa said…

    Dear "Anonymous,"

    If I may, I'd like to add a few points of clarification to what Martha Therese has ably observed.

    One of the things to keep in mind, particularly nowadays, is that often modification of habits include a concern for the vow of poverty. Many years ago when there were sister seamstresses who made a community's habits, it was the most economical thing to wear the traditional habit. However as life changed and fewer Sisters were able to perform seamstress work, many communities then had to purchase their habit elements commercially. Even the religious clothing (habit) companies like Fitzpatrick in New York City saw increasing costs to consumers. Once those companies closed, some communities proceeded to purchase elements from uniform companies, clearly not the most economical option but at the time necessary. Since that time, many communities I know personally have modified their habit options in order that their Sisters can remain recognizable yet be faithful to evangelical poverty. So, the ability to wear a blouse from "Target" (for example) as part of one's habit is less about losing "old habits" and more about quality expression of evangelical poverty and being good stewards of their community's economical resources, another dimension of evangelical poverty.

    I hope that detail helps to broaden the conversation.

    Blessings!

     
  • At 6:49 PM, Blogger Lisa said…

    Also, one further clarification in follow-up to "Anonymous."

    We should be cautious not to confuse "habit" and "veil." They are not necessarily synonymous although many communities that were more traditional habits or recognizable habits generally veil. In fact, if my understanding is correct, all Daughters of Saint Paul "wear a habit," that is their dress is defined and recognizable. In some parts of the world, however, some do not wear a veil for reasons deemed permissible by Holy Mother Church.

    That point reminds me that we should all be conscious that Holy Mother Church approves the Constitutions of all religious communities so if a community does not "habit" it is with the permission of the Church, contrary to what many people believe.

    Sister Annie, I hope you don't mind that I took some comment space to respond to the concerns that "Anonymous" raised.

    Thank you for providing this space.

     
  • At 5:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Unfortunately all DSP's do not wear a habit. It goes from country to country.

    I find the reasoning behind updating acceptable but at the same time ask the question why can't the Sisters be taught to sew?

    I am curious as to why one of my comments (6:07 PM)was deleted when there was nothing wrong with it.

    Ah the Truth.

     
  • At 10:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The discussion over what constitutes a habit is a discussion that "eternally" could exist. I believe that some distinct style of clothing needs to be worn. As our world does need that witness.

    My personal concern is more to the point that religious live out their vows. What I find disconcerting is the books and movies that I have known some Priests and Sisters to be partaking of. They do this as if to say, I don't know Jesus isn't aware or doesn't care. Not realizing (or caring) that some day they will be held accountable.

    As for the "habits" I think oftentimes it is a discussion that only covers one half of the situation that need to be discussed, in love and in charity.

    I was a religious for over 30 years, so I know from experience.

     
  • At 2:44 PM, Anonymous elizabeth marie said…

    Wow--just one picture of the junior encounter would lead to this long...looong...thread here. I don't want to leave behind...so, here's my two cents:
    "Unfortunately all DSP's do not wear a habit. It goes from country to country." In the world there're some countries that are not open to "freedom of religion". Your life can be in danger if you're known as a religious. So, I believe it's why some DSP don't have their habits on.
    "why can't the Sisters be taught to sew?" Not everyone is made to learn how to sew-:). DSP's mission is in the mass media. If DSP take time to sew, I think it would take away from their pens and Bl Alberione would not like to see his daughters to spend their time on sewing rather than on writing.
    "why one of my comments (6:07 PM)was deleted" I sense your upset but the blog administrator could do whatever she pleases. It's her blog.
    Please pardon me if I wounded anyone by my two cents and let's pray for each other.
    elizabeth marie

     
  • At 3:01 PM, Anonymous elizabeth marie said…

    "I believe that some distinct style of clothing needs to be worn. As our world does need that witness." I second agree to this.

    "My personal concern is more to the point that religious live out their vows. What I find disconcerting is the books and movies that I have known some Priests and Sisters to be partaking of. They do this as if to say, I don't know Jesus isn't aware or doesn't care. Not realizing (or caring) that some day they will be held accountable." Oh, blessed your caring soul but we can only pray for them and give them in God's love.

    "in love and in charity." Amen!

    "I was a religious for over 30 years, so I know from experience." Wow, I would love to hear your story...it must be a very beautiful love story between you and God through your ex community. As I was wandering in this blog, I found Paulinespirit and she's a blogger at Paulineyear.blogspot.com. I check it out and I like it. Maybe you can start something like that. I'm sure you would have alot of insights for newbies who're exploring religious life or wisdom for those who left.
    Peace :)
    elizabeth marie

     

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